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		<title>By: writing2reality</title>
		<link>https://www.writeyourownreality.com/lending-club/wfc-employees-banned-peer-peer-lending/#comment-8177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[writing2reality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope you tell her that she&#039;s the best client you have! 

Interesting to learn how they might treat the notes differently than the company. That of course leads to the next questions, at what point do the notes become regulated and acceptable? Both Prosper and Lending Club file with the SEC and went through some heavy filing requirements to do so. Either way, lesson learned is right, don&#039;t volunteer information! :)

Very interesting as well on the limits to which brokerages you can use (must be due to the ability to monitor employee&#039;s investments). I had heard of this before from a CFP friend of mine who has experienced some limitations in the past as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you tell her that she&#8217;s the best client you have! </p>
<p>Interesting to learn how they might treat the notes differently than the company. That of course leads to the next questions, at what point do the notes become regulated and acceptable? Both Prosper and Lending Club file with the SEC and went through some heavy filing requirements to do so. Either way, lesson learned is right, don&#8217;t volunteer information! <img src="https://www.writeyourownreality.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>Very interesting as well on the limits to which brokerages you can use (must be due to the ability to monitor employee&#8217;s investments). I had heard of this before from a CFP friend of mine who has experienced some limitations in the past as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still work for them so I don&#039;t share, but it is a Fortune 100 insurance company of which I am a registered representative (although I have literally one client, The Wife).  

I actually think owning a piece of LC would have been alright as an outside business activity - the notes were unregulated instruments that home office compliance wasn&#039;t comfortable with.  Might have been my &quot;fault&quot; for sharing that I even had the account lol.  

In the same vain I actually am only allowed to use one of 10 brokerage sites (sites like sharebuilder, tradeking, etc are not on there)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still work for them so I don&#8217;t share, but it is a Fortune 100 insurance company of which I am a registered representative (although I have literally one client, The Wife).  </p>
<p>I actually think owning a piece of LC would have been alright as an outside business activity &#8211; the notes were unregulated instruments that home office compliance wasn&#8217;t comfortable with.  Might have been my &#8220;fault&#8221; for sharing that I even had the account lol.  </p>
<p>In the same vain I actually am only allowed to use one of 10 brokerage sites (sites like sharebuilder, tradeking, etc are not on there)</p>
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		<title>By: writing2reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting! Do you mind if I ask who you worked for at the time? And riding them out must have been tremendously annoying. I can certainly appreciate limitations in the investment arena due to regulations, but to me, there is a difference between investing in notes versus owning equity in Lending Club. 

Thanks for stopping by Evan!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! Do you mind if I ask who you worked for at the time? And riding them out must have been tremendously annoying. I can certainly appreciate limitations in the investment arena due to regulations, but to me, there is a difference between investing in notes versus owning equity in Lending Club. </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by Evan!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t work for WFC but I was banned from investing on prosper.  They made me ride out my funded loans for the 3 years without investing in new ones lol.  It was really annoying.  

I don&#039;t remember the exact justification (it was over 3 years ago at this point) but it had something to do with being a registered rep and being involved in private deals that my broker-dealer couldn&#039;t monitor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t work for WFC but I was banned from investing on prosper.  They made me ride out my funded loans for the 3 years without investing in new ones lol.  It was really annoying.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember the exact justification (it was over 3 years ago at this point) but it had something to do with being a registered rep and being involved in private deals that my broker-dealer couldn&#8217;t monitor.</p>
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		<title>By: writing2reality</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[writing2reality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think enforcement will be complicated, but limited how employees can invest is quite common in the world of finance. There is a tremendous amount of reporting requirements that folks already have to abide by so this isn&#039;t entirely out of the realm. The biggest thing I take away from it is the fact that they consider Lending Club as a possible conflict of interest, or in other words, a competitor. 

Should be interesting to see how things shake out over the next six months. Thanks again for stopping by!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think enforcement will be complicated, but limited how employees can invest is quite common in the world of finance. There is a tremendous amount of reporting requirements that folks already have to abide by so this isn&#8217;t entirely out of the realm. The biggest thing I take away from it is the fact that they consider Lending Club as a possible conflict of interest, or in other words, a competitor. </p>
<p>Should be interesting to see how things shake out over the next six months. Thanks again for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2014 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how are they going to enforce it. If you do not tell them, they have no chance to find out. Also if I were a WFC employee I would open my account on my wife&#039;s name or my daughter&#039;s name and WFC can go to hell. 

I understand that they are mad. Now they do not reap those juicy yields themselves so they are screaming. 

Also I am not sure this is legal and not sure it is a conflict of interest. What I am doing as a private person with my own money is my business and not WFC&#039;s. I would consider it a conflict of interest if employees would direct potential clients to LC for example and thus WFC would lose them. But if I am investing my own cash in the evening at home, that&#039;s bullshit. If my employer would do this I would hire a lawyer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how are they going to enforce it. If you do not tell them, they have no chance to find out. Also if I were a WFC employee I would open my account on my wife&#8217;s name or my daughter&#8217;s name and WFC can go to hell. </p>
<p>I understand that they are mad. Now they do not reap those juicy yields themselves so they are screaming. </p>
<p>Also I am not sure this is legal and not sure it is a conflict of interest. What I am doing as a private person with my own money is my business and not WFC&#8217;s. I would consider it a conflict of interest if employees would direct potential clients to LC for example and thus WFC would lose them. But if I am investing my own cash in the evening at home, that&#8217;s bullshit. If my employer would do this I would hire a lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: JC @ Passive-Income-Pursuit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC @ Passive-Income-Pursuit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not an expert on those regulations at all, but I know there&#039;s plenty of them.  Although if other banks haven&#039;t followed suit then I guess this could be a strictly WFC thing.

I had no idea they were doing that much in lending.  $300M per month each is a huge amount.  In light of those kind of stats I can see the worry by the big banks.  Are any of the banks invested with LC/Propser?  I saw you posted that WFC makes money through the LC Trust Account.  I&#039;m curious why the ban by WFC if they currently have a stake in the improvement of LC at least.  I guess I could understand a no Propser investment if WFC only has ties with LC but why both?  Unless it has something to do with the IPO process, but that doesn&#039;t really make sense given that these are individual investors that have no ties to the companies but just use their marketplaces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an expert on those regulations at all, but I know there&#8217;s plenty of them.  Although if other banks haven&#8217;t followed suit then I guess this could be a strictly WFC thing.</p>
<p>I had no idea they were doing that much in lending.  $300M per month each is a huge amount.  In light of those kind of stats I can see the worry by the big banks.  Are any of the banks invested with LC/Propser?  I saw you posted that WFC makes money through the LC Trust Account.  I&#8217;m curious why the ban by WFC if they currently have a stake in the improvement of LC at least.  I guess I could understand a no Propser investment if WFC only has ties with LC but why both?  Unless it has something to do with the IPO process, but that doesn&#8217;t really make sense given that these are individual investors that have no ties to the companies but just use their marketplaces.</p>
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		<title>By: writing2reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would imagine that it should be allowed, but I certainly don&#039;t know the answer for sure. I think because they are privately held Wells Fargo has more of a leg to stand on, but I am just spitballing at this point. Something I am looking into for sure!

Thanks for stopping by Steve!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine that it should be allowed, but I certainly don&#8217;t know the answer for sure. I think because they are privately held Wells Fargo has more of a leg to stand on, but I am just spitballing at this point. Something I am looking into for sure!</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by Steve!</p>
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		<title>By: writing2reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not familiar with the rules and regulations on limiting what you can and cannot invest in while working for a particular company, especially since you aren&#039;t necessarily investing IN Lending Club and/or Prosper, just WITH Lending Club and/or Prosper. I think where things might get murky is that both Lending Club and Prosper are privately held companies which is obviously different than a publicly traded company as far as transparency goes. I will still need to look into the rules for a better understanding of how this policy could be implemented.

As for the size of P2P Lending, it has the opportunity to be extremely disrupting to the current banking picture. The average loan for Lending Club was over 14k in December with approximately $300 million of issued loans between both companies during the same month. Given the historic growth trends, I would anticipate them issuing north of $6 billion in loans during 2014. That represents a potential $6 billion dollars of debt that credit card companies and banks no longer earn 29.99% interest on as the loans get paid off with a fixed term note. And all of this is just in the consumer loans arena. Lending Club is currently working on developing small business lending which would be an even larger threat for banks as they continue to develop a brand and gain traction in the lending arena.

Thanks for stopping by JC and for the great comments/questions. As an aside, I would expect you will be able to invest directly into notes with Lending Club sometime in the very near future (once the IPO has occurred).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not familiar with the rules and regulations on limiting what you can and cannot invest in while working for a particular company, especially since you aren&#8217;t necessarily investing IN Lending Club and/or Prosper, just WITH Lending Club and/or Prosper. I think where things might get murky is that both Lending Club and Prosper are privately held companies which is obviously different than a publicly traded company as far as transparency goes. I will still need to look into the rules for a better understanding of how this policy could be implemented.</p>
<p>As for the size of P2P Lending, it has the opportunity to be extremely disrupting to the current banking picture. The average loan for Lending Club was over 14k in December with approximately $300 million of issued loans between both companies during the same month. Given the historic growth trends, I would anticipate them issuing north of $6 billion in loans during 2014. That represents a potential $6 billion dollars of debt that credit card companies and banks no longer earn 29.99% interest on as the loans get paid off with a fixed term note. And all of this is just in the consumer loans arena. Lending Club is currently working on developing small business lending which would be an even larger threat for banks as they continue to develop a brand and gain traction in the lending arena.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by JC and for the great comments/questions. As an aside, I would expect you will be able to invest directly into notes with Lending Club sometime in the very near future (once the IPO has occurred).</p>
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		<title>By: writing2reality</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[writing2reality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very heavy handed and poorly considered in my opinion. The negative backlash and outcry might far outweigh any benefits from instituting the ban. I do believe there is probably more to the story, but the next couple years will be very interesting as P2P Lending continues to grow.

Thanks for commenting Bryan!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very heavy handed and poorly considered in my opinion. The negative backlash and outcry might far outweigh any benefits from instituting the ban. I do believe there is probably more to the story, but the next couple years will be very interesting as P2P Lending continues to grow.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting Bryan!</p>
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